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World Wide Dream Builders - (Amway)

Yes... it's my fault for joining and being blind but I wanted to put out my experience for those who are frantically googling what World Wide Dream Builders (WWDB) or Amway is.

If your gut feeling is telling you to second guess this opportunity and if you're in the interview and coffee meetings/meetings held in hotels/venues .. "the process"--- Get out now while you still can.
If you're all for it and wish to stay- that is your decision but know not everyone makes it and more often, people just end up staying because they become attached to these mentors who embody nothing but fakeness. They are ruthless.. they will tell you that they have a vested interest in you but let's be real- you're just a number in their pyramid and they need you to support their income. Joining Amway is a numbers game - you obviously need to recruit and sell to keep your numbers otherwise you end up losing money.

Here goes... (It's going to be long but I want to include as much information on my experience).
Like the title says, this is an EDMONTON, ALBERTA CANADA experience.

I don't tend to dwell on regrets.. however joining the organization, World Wide Dream Builders has been one of my biggest regrets. I joined in 2015 and to this date, I am still living out the consequences that followed. Other than losing time and money (ironically, as this is something that is promised and obsessed about)... I lost (some) really close relationships.. missed out on opportunities..  I was fortunate to be only involved for less than a year but there was already a significant amount of damage that was done. One of the key principles that are taught by these WWDB mentors/members is avoiding debt at all costs.. before my launch, I was provided a budget session that would allow me to invest in this opportunity. At the time I was working part time as a Server which means minimum wage + tips, I only had less than 2-3 K of debt on my credit card, despite that I was paying most of my bills on time. During my budget session they told me that based on my income that being apart of this opportunity wouldn't put me in further debt as long as I followed the budget they set up for me. I trusted these people... they were Platinums and everyone loved and respected them. The wife wrote a budget of ONLY $40 that would be allocated for groceries.. per month. They said to be successful, to eat into what Amway sells (the bars.. energy drinks, water etc). I blindly said sure. They told me that within 2-3 months of following their budget plan that I would out of credit card debt... in reality every month, I was maxing out both my credit cards. Altogether I had already invested approx. $ 10-15, 000. This included EVERYTHING - staying core, motivational materials, amway products for PV, functions, gas & accommodations. The USD dollar was pretty high too which resulted in losing more money.

The reason I quit WWDB/Amway was because my mentor told me to end my relationship with my significant other who at the time, I dragged into this mess when she did not want anything to do with it. She attended some meetings here and there but rarely ever engaged in conversation with others. My sponsor was pretty rude and inappropriate with her too- putting down her education and at one point, she was drinking a can of pop and my sponsor asked me why she drinking a negative product. (My sponsor was a douche and believed in WWDB religiously- he put down everything that wasn't WWWD/Amway. I honestly feel bad for this guy too..as he's been involved for almost 5 years and still no where. Anyways back to my mentor, I couldn't believe someone who seemed to value marriages and families could tell me to break up with someone I loved. It's sickening to think this person thought they had that kind of control over me.

I've witnessed some messed up teachings... and the look of people's faces as they look up to these platinum and aboves in brainwashed awe makes me sick. ( If you're reading this and you believe that you're platinum/mentors are good people etc etc then good for them ) THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE.

- I had introduced a stranger that I approached in a mall to my mentors (I know so pathetic and embarrassing.. lol and I regret it). This stranger owned his own business and was an immigrant (yep, I'm an asshole) Anyways, I didn't end up sponsoring him but did invite him into the learning process. This individual had quite a few questions and my platinum mentor was being very vague. At one point, my platinum mentor told him that to accept this mentorship meant accepting all kinds of advice from business to personal and then he casually says "like if we tell you, you need to sell your business to focus on amway".... I don't know if this individual caught what was said but yeah.. ruthless.
Oh, and they'll also encourage you to sell your home and rent. I know an upline couple who had a beautiful home- it wasn't even a starter home and this upline had a government job. Well, they sold that home to live in a condo (no offence to condos-I live in one) but to downgrade, I don't understand why they did that. But apparently everyone in WWDB rents and they put down owning a mortgage.. saying that homes should be paid in cash.

Now the next little bit will be on random things that come to mind that make WWDB the worst business to join.

- I was encouraged to lie if prospects suspected Amway and to redirect the conversation/change the subect.

- I was expected to attend ALL the meetings.. which also resulted in loss of income as I was put on evening shifts and I would have to give my shift up ( yep, I'm a dumbass). If I didn't attend the meeting, I wouldn't be taken seriously and at the next meeting or at nuts&bolts they would mention it indirectly when they were teaching. My platinum mentor was also always putting people down...calling them losers and "retarded" if they had a job and were not apart of amway.

- If you can't afford the business (which clearly I didn't but didn't say anything because I thought things would get better).. upline will tell you that you can easily pick up another job to help with expenses... I've heard them say to get another job at mcdonalds or the mall.. And this is so hypocritical because they're always saying how jobs are hard to find and keep.

ANOTHER THING.. THEY GUILT TRIP YOU.
- The day before or a few hours before a board plan or meeting, they always text you to make sure you're coming.
- They tell you that we have to attend meetings and keep up with PV because upline platinum is taking time out of their life, paying babysitters and spending money on gas for board plans. And that they are mentoring you for free.
- They want you to buy all the motivational materials, they encourage you to buy the book that the diamonds are reading and if you didn't have that book, you'd order it because they will tell you this book will help your business grow.
-They bring up delaying gratification (no taking up sports, hobbies, spending time with friends/family in order to spend more time and money on growing the business). I heard a teaching about how you should stop volunteering (even church volunteering) so that you can build your business.

Another thing to keep in mind- not everyone stays at the level pin that they're celebrated for.
- There are people who are called up on stage at 4000 PV to only drop down to 2500-3000 later because people quit but they still say they are that level pin.. same with platinums, Our upline mentioned how he knows platinums that went out of qualification because they didn't keep their volume up and missed the amway trip incentive)

- They really hate it if they see you allocating your money somewhere else other than wwdb/amway.
If you mention you're planning on going back to school, they will talk about how education will get you no where in the next board plan.
If you tell them you will be going on vacation, they will tell you how you're setting a bad example by not delaying gratification and leaving your team.
Other than hating jobs, they HATE hearing about these things and people making better money. They will always criticize whatever is outside amway/wwdb.

- This ALWAYS bothered me. I don't want to mention any names but I remember they were very moved by the story of how a diamond built her business as a "Single Mom" but if you do more research.. she actually had help from her divorced husband. I mean I guess you can say she's building it as a single mom but to say she built it as a single mom from the start is deceiving.

- They LOVE young people, 18-30... the younger you are, the better and more disposable.
They love recruiting couples and if you are only able to recruit just the husband or wife, they make it their mission to recruit the other spouse. If that said spouse can't get on board, there will be trouble lol.

The sad thing is, if I were to ever tell my platinum upline/mentors my experience they will surely turned it around and twist it on me.

World Wide Dream Builders is the worst thing to have ever happen to me. I was naive and I didn't do my research. I was led to trust people who told me I would retire in 2-5 years. There is so much that is hidden from new recruits. The money isn't in amway, it's in the motivational materials and memberships etc.

Comments

  1. Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm a fellow Edmontonian who has a dear friend stuck in this "business" and we really do need people who will speak up!

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  2. Thanks for speaking your mind... its the rise of the bots.. Edmonton has had so many WWDB's sign up that you can't even have a coffee now without someone selling you the dream.

    At 19 I was told that I could retire at 25 if it started "NOW!" - I owned a business at the time which did 6 figures in revenue so I decided to do the math...

    If I want to retire at 25, and I'm assuming that I will pass away at 86 that means I need to accumulate $1,415,938.08 by the age of 25 and then put it into a plan or portfolio that nets on average 7.5% return... (go find one). AMWAY is not going to yield cash asset returns of 1.4 Million in less or equal to 6 years

    Please keep in mind that as per the WWDB plan you need to earn 6 figures to retire... so I am being conservative and saying that I need 100,000 to live every year until 86.

    I want to clarify that I am all for the WWDB mentorship and trying to help those in need etc. however, the BS business plan of AMWAY is a joke/misguided and too many WWDB's focus on the short sighted returns instead of the long game. (the chain of command has become too long, and the message has become distorted from the original goals of WWDB.)

    Go enjoy your life - do something you love or enjoy and build meaningful relationships... the real hustlers and "self-made" will support, find, and assist you faster than buying net zero return energy drinks from those up the down-chain.

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  3. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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  4. Thank you for all the info. I am currently in a "vetting process", and have become leary. I really like the people involved, but don't want to do another mlm.

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  5. Much appreciated. Sadly not the only ones :(
    www.wwdbtruth.ca

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  6. THANK YOU!!!
    I live in Edmonton and just ended a "process" today. Dunno why, but I still wondered if I was doing the right (even knowing it was BS). But this confirms pretty much every suspicion I had/have.

    It's now 2:42 am, and I can finally go to bed and sleep easy. Genuinely, thank you!!!!!

    PS: I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you :(

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  7. I live in Wisconsin in the US, and have had the same experience. I was recruited by a friend and although I own the decision making I will insist I wasn't given all the information upfront. I was told it only cost $300 to launch my business and boy was I surprised when month 2 rolled around and I was billed nearly $130 for on going subscriptions. I was told that WWDB teaches people to generate 150PV a month (roughly $450) because it could be duplicated, but soon enough I was being pressured to hit 200PV ($600) and then 300PV($900). The worst part for me was that EVERYTHING was about getting me to functions. These cost anywhere from $80 to $175 and there is travel and lodging. I finally refused to attend one that would have cost me $1000 in total and my upline wrongly assumed I could not afford it and suggested I sell plasma. I was told to break up with my boyfriend of 17 years. Nope. From what I can tell the people who broke big in WWBD were already rich because there families had been rich or had been in Amway forever.

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